Subject	Injectors on the exhuast side has been proven in newer cars.
Posted by	coma_ass on November 05, 2014 at 2:39 PM
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In Reply To	I keep thinking about it too. posted by BlackholeZ on November 05, 2014 at 01:51 AM
Message	Take the Mazda Skyactive engine. It is running around 13:1 compression ratio on 87 octane fuel without detonation. They contribute part of that to the fact they control combustion chamber temps better. The hottest part of a combustion chamber is near the exhaust ports, when fuel is injected there it cools the cylinder better. If fuel is partially injected early not only does it atomize better, but it flashes (instantly evaporates through enthalpy) and creates a vacuum for better air intake. "Being forgotten is worse than death" "The penguines are slowly, but surely stealing my sanity"...."sprinkles" "The ricer isle is equivalent to the feminine hygiene product isle in the grocery store...real men just don't belong there." BradZ (FL) "That’s like buying a car and having them hand you a fucking wrench with the keys. Like YEAH WE KNOW THIS MOTHERFUCKER’S GOING TO EXPLODE AND BE SPREAD ACROSS EIGHT LANES AS SOON AS YOU HIT THE GAS, BUT SHIT, WE GAVE YOU A WRENCH, SO BE COOL."
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